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Old 04-03-2008, 07:30 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I've used general statements like "many" to try to avoid this, I know that there are tons of Christians who aren't extremists.


I'm just stating my opinion regarding the debate question.
I just found it necessary to point out for the simple fact that some users may become offended by the statements you used.

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Although I do agree with you that ancient Popes and high bishops were most likely wrong in eyes of both followers and non-followers, there actually is approval of that crap. Why would the bible teach you how long you should hold your slaves, and how you may sell your daughter as a sex slave if it didn't approve of such activities? I understand, the Bible is thousands of years old when such activity was not considered as immoral as it is today, but now since it is, I don't see why a Pope or somebody couldn't just revise the Bible a little bit.
Can you point out to me exactly where in the bible it states such things? I haven't read it cover to cover (god I would never) but I do know a bit about everything, and either my teachings in the religion were so deluded that they merely hid that aspect or your completely fabricating them. I suspect that these may be scriptures OUTSIDE of the bible; or from a denomination of Christianity.



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I suppose, but if a person follows something so closely, one would expect that person to abide by the Bible.
Thats the thing though; Most people will go to church every sunday, and by the end of the hour, upon exiting the church the wife will turn to the husband, "Ugh did you see what Laura was wearing? Such a slut in the place of god."
I take religion for what it is, to the extent it suppose to be taken too. Just because Joey goes to church, doesn't mean I'll take his candy from his parked van outside my school.
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From the way I see it, following a religion is fine, as long as you're not one of those who tries to proselytize everybody and take the Bible so literally. The Bible calls for the death of non-believers or followers of a different god, and even supports the killing of an entire town if one person in that town follows another religion. Taking (and following) something like that would just be crazy and unnecessary.
I like reading actual scriptures that support your statements. Not because I don't believe you, but in a lot of sense, the majority of that is Genesis; Where the Pope was one of the biggest powers of its time. Hell, the Crusades were killed off because of the pope.

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Old 04-03-2008, 07:43 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I just found it necessary to point out for the simple fact that some users may become offended by the statements you used.

Can you point out to me exactly where in the bible it states such things? I haven't read it cover to cover (god I would never) but I do know a bit about everything, and either my teachings in the religion were so deluded that they merely hid that aspect or your completely fabricating them. I suspect that these may be scriptures OUTSIDE of the bible; or from a denomination of Christianity.



Thats the thing though; Most people will go to church every sunday, and by the end of the hour, upon exiting the church the wife will turn to the husband, "Ugh did you see what Laura was wearing? Such a slut in the place of god."
I take religion for what it is, to the extent it suppose to be taken too. Just because Joey goes to church, doesn't mean I'll take his candy from his parked van outside my school.
I like reading actual scriptures that support your statements. Not because I don't believe you, but in a lot of sense, the majority of that is Genesis; Where the Pope was one of the biggest powers of its time. Hell, the Crusades were killed off because of the pope.

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However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
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If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
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When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
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When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
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Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
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Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
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The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
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Old 04-03-2008, 07:44 PM   #33 (permalink)
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P.S.. "P.S." means "post script.", so "P.S.S." would mean "post script script." You mean to say "P. P.S", post post-script.
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Old 04-03-2008, 07:54 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Hi Rui.
P.S.. "P.S." means "post script.", so "P.S.S." would mean "post script script." You mean to say "P. P.S", post post-script.
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Wow, he original starter of this thread, let me start by saying you are the most ignorant person. Have you ever tried thinking? no. First off, all those contradicitons is a list from some athiest trying to take down chrisitanity. You can take the warp anything to sound bad or confusing if you want to. Yeah of course there was more than one language back then, doesnt mean " the earth was of one language" meant literally everyone spoke one tongue. You must of been an idiot to even think thats what they meant. Have a seat doesnt mean to take a chair and walk away with it.

Yes, there may be some odd people who say god spoke to them and seem crazy, but that happens with all religions sects or whatever. Look at athiests, millions do drugs are whacked out and insane.but do we go around yelling " some crazy athiests just did this......" no. You just think that because a few people arent normal to you, you can go tear down something you dont understand. Well i know some pretty whacko athiests, should i go try and say your bullshit? no. Its just stupid isnt it?


76% of serious crimes come from christians? Wow SHOW ME your facts? dude your talking out of your ass. And Yes the bible does talk about moral values, and i think having values is good. I have met people of many different religions even athiests who have good values. Not everyone condems people with bad morals, they just think you should have them.

Also, please show me where it says a christian in good faith sold there daughter as a sex slave and beat there wifes daily. Your facts are based off of peoples ignorance and disgust. ALL you said was BULLSHIT. honestly, your the only bullshit i see.

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I don't know what I think of any religion. All of it seems like it's something wrote to control people...or give those that have very little something to believe in.

While I'm not here to poke fun and blame at people, to me it does seem sorta stupid.

I mean, man wrote religion. Man has proven time and time again to be wrong on many things.

Religion causes wars, heartbreak, and more problems. I don't really see too much good that has came out of it...
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I pretty much tl;dr'ed most of the thread, but i just want to say this;
I find almost all religions just to be a contest. It probably really started the same way that Scientology did, some old drunk bastards sitting around smoking big expensive cigars and sipping on their brandy, making a bet they can get more people to follow their bullshit religion. 'Heaven' is only a place of spiritual thought, it's not real. Hell is not real either, but more realistic. Another thing that just throws me over the edge with rage. ADAM AND EVE, someone, PLEASE, teach these idiots about SCIENCE, and EVOLUTION. Enough said.
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I think it's bullshit that a set of beliefs are being convoluted by agendas other than to simply explain reality.

Catholic officials tends to have this habit of slapping an omnipotent force as the answer to everything in order to extort money, power, domination and or influence over it's constituents/believers. it almost feels like theresalways been an ulterior agenda. *there are plenty of other faiths that have done/do this, but this thread is about Catholicism so we'll save that rant for a separate thread.

I don't think Catholicism is necessarily bullshit, but I don't like ^

For the record, my family is old school Deist.
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Your facts are based off of peoples ignorance and disgust. ALL you said was BULLSHIT.
If you read page 4 of this thread, you can see that there are quotes from the Bible supporting some of these claims. Therefore, you state the Bible is ignorance and bullshit.


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