Do you believe in Science or Religion?

Cody! · 07-07-2009, 09:47 PM

Science~theories of the big bang and evolution from ape to man and many other theories as well

Religion~Different beliefs based on the religion
~Christianity (only one I really know) God creating the universe and creating man

I personally hate to learn science but I believe that science is the truth
My reasoning:
~After studying religion for around 7 years, reading the bible 3 times through, and going to bible studies and sunday school, I found a lot of loop-holes in the theories of god
~When I learned science and the theory of evolution and the big bang they had so much evidence behind them (although the evolution lacked quite a bit of evidence, but I believe it will be found in the future)

Slightly off-topic:

~Also after I stopped believing in the bible I become Agnostic, because I just don't think humans can truly interpret religion and it also sounds so much better than plain saying I'm an Atheist xD

Well I want to know YOUR OPINION

G.I.R. · 07-07-2009, 09:55 PM

I'm one of the few Atheists I know who has actually read the bible, and various other translated religious texts. My parents were raised religious (different) but grew to dislike it. My dad raised me to question everything, and only believe what you can prove yourself. He taught me about various religions and told me to make up my own mind.

When I started school, I literally questioned everything. I was the annoying kid asking 'why' all the time. When it came to science, I fell in love with it. I could go hands-on and prove what I was being told, or I could watch others prove it. When it came to religion, however, it was smoke and mirrors, blind faith, fairy tales.

So I prefer science. I prefer to go by what can be proven, whether by a physics-style proof based on each point of the theory, or by my own hands. I can't prove religion, nor have I seen anyone ever prove religion. It's an enigma, and I wont accept that.

thiswine41 · 07-07-2009, 09:56 PM

In science not all theories support each other, just like the big bang theory, and the logic that there wasn't even a Universal beginning.

Anyway, I believe in science, not religion. (Yes I did not say "more than religion". Since I don't believe in it at all). Because science has reasons, and religion has alibis.

Creationism is just not valid. If God is perfect and complete, he wouldn't want and have to create something else.

Cody! · 07-07-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by G.I.R.

I'm one of the few Atheists I know who has actually read the bible, and various other translated religious texts. My parents were raised religious (different) but grew to dislike it. My dad raised me to question everything, and only believe what you can prove yourself. He taught me about various religions and told me to make up my own mind.

When I started school, I literally questioned everything. I was the annoying kid asking 'why' all the time. When it came to science, I fell in love with it. I could go hands-on and prove what I was being told, or I could watch others prove it. When it came to religion, however, it was smoke and mirrors, blind faith, fairy tales.

So I prefer science. I prefer to go by what can be proven, whether by a physics-style proof based on each point of the theory, or by my own hands. I can't prove religion, nor have I seen anyone ever prove religion. It's an enigma, and I wont accept that.

Sounds like me except the only reason I didn't enjoy science was all the horrid teachers I got they made you sit and read out of the book and take tests on things that weren't even in the book or explained in class I had a horrible 7th grade one, a decent 8th grade one, and my 9th grade one was so bad me and a group of friends changed her name from DeBell to DeBitch xD

~~*fire10*~~ · 07-08-2009, 08:49 PM

Science, to me it makes more sense that man evolved from ape.

isuri · 07-08-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cody!

~Also after I stopped believing in the bible I become Agnostic, because I just don't think humans can truly interpret religion and it also sounds so much better than plain saying I'm an Atheist xD

Humans can certainly interpret religion. Just that we can't truly grasp the concept of a higher intelligence, or if one exists, so religion is just sort of blindly believing something you truly know nothing about. I was going to say that sounded stupid to say "it sound better" but then again, I'm sort of the same way. For a long time I considered myself atheist, but was too afraid to really share that with anyone off the internet. Then I decided agnostic made more sense, because I can't really say there's no creator and/or omnipresent being of the world, because their's no way to prove their isn't. And I'm less fearful of being shunned when I say "idk if gods real or not, ya know?" Idk why I'm babbling so much today, I really completely lose my train of though and just type randomness, not sure if I'm even making sense 0.o

thiswine41 · 07-09-2009, 04:33 AM

I think just logic and a dose of common sense would prove a god doesn't exist. I've always loved that line that goes, "Can a god create a wall so high he cannot climb it?" Or the other version that goes "Can a god create a rock so heavy he cannot lift it?". It's not a dare for god, but it's more like a question of god's validity.

thiswine41 · 07-09-2009, 05:30 AM

I believe he just forgot to put "believe" or such. If you read his first post you'll get what he wants to know.

matt6906 · 07-09-2009, 10:10 AM

I find that neither religion nor science can effectively explain all things. I am definately a scientist, but I also am not naive enough to believe that matter spontaneously came into being from nothing. That goes against every law of nature, for one. The more meaningful hint though, is the fact that we, as people, can simply not understand some things. Take the end of the universe for example. It is beyond man to fathom "infinity." Everything we know is finate, so how can we relate our own experiences to a never-ending one?

I'm not philosophist, (spelling) but I also believe that man's conception of God is seriously lacking. How can we picture a god which we ultimately know nothing of? Sure we have the bible, but isn't the bible just hearsay, and by that, don't we have reason to doubt it? Thomas Paine believed that a "revelation" is truely only experienced by the first person whom the revelation came to. After that initial occurence, it is merely hearsay. I think that thought is rather powerful. ;D

carmen · 07-12-2009, 08:13 AM

I used to prefer science because it required extensive proof for a theory to be accepted as law, whereas religion just told you to stop asking questions and take it on faith. However, I've found that science cannot explain things like the subconsciousness and why humans prefer to feed cows our grain instead of giving it to the starving poor, so I've decided to just believe that we humans drove ourselves insane by not knowing what to believe.