Drugs: legazlized?

[feversleep]

as in drugs that are "Abused"
like from weed-meth
do you think they should be legalized?
and if so which ones

[Tumbleweed]

Yes, drugs should be legalized. Simple argument: It's my fucking body, and if I can commit slow suicide by drinking excessive alcohol or chain smoking, then I should have the right to do it with any other drug. Think about it this way: a crack addict is so addicted to crack that he will go out of his way to get his next hit. If you take this crack addict and you make it easier FOR him, suddenly his life isn't ruined persay, and he's not afraid to get help to solve his problem.

[Mastertroy]

I think drugs like crack cocaine, heroin and other opiate based drugs should remain illigal, but drugs like weed which are alot less harmfull on your body should be legalized.

There is logic behind that choice.

Crack is very bad for you, and you can overdose easiely on heroin and cocaine that you inject, i.e in the form of speedballs.
Those drugs are also VERY addictive, unlike weed which has almost no phisical withdrawl symptons whereas heroin has intense feelings of discomfort and pain, leaving a person bedridden for a few days. That initial feeling soon passes but then you are left with the mental side of withdrawl symptons which are 'i need that fuckin hit of crack' and shit like that.

With weed its like, shit i need some weed for the first couple of days, there are barely no noticable physical effects and then if you try hard you can cut weed, but because weed isnt a very addictive drug anyway not many people even get to that stage.

Put it this way also.
Crack and shit like that are very easy to become dependant on, this includes tobaco, whereas marijuana isnt a very addictive drug, and any credibal scientific evidence will prove this.
I can also back that up ( although this isnt a fair representation) that i have smoked weed several times, and i feel absolutly NO wanting to get high again, even the next day i wasnt like 'fuck i wana go get wasted again' i was just chill.

There are a few reasons on my opinion.

Cheers

[Tumbleweed]

Originally Posted by Mastertroy

I think drugs like crack cocaine, heroin and other opiate based drugs should remain illigal, but drugs like weed which are alot less harmfull on your body should be legalized.

There is logic behind that choice.

Crack is very bad for you, and you can overdose easiely on heroin and cocaine that you inject, i.e in the form of speedballs.
Those drugs are also VERY addictive, unlike weed which has almost no phisical withdrawl symptons whereas heroin has intense feelings of discomfort and pain, leaving a person bedridden for a few days. That initial feeling soon passes but then you are left with the mental side of withdrawl symptons which are 'i need that fuckin hit of crack' and shit like that.

With weed its like, shit i need some weed for the first couple of days, there are barely no noticable physical effects and then if you try hard you can cut weed, but because weed isnt a very addictive drug anyway not many people even get to that stage.

Put it this way also.
Crack and shit like that are very easy to become dependant on, this includes tobaco, whereas marijuana isnt a very addictive drug, and any credibal scientific evidence will prove this.
I can also back that up ( although this isnt a fair representation) that i have smoked weed several times, and i feel absolutly NO wanting to get high again, even the next day i wasnt like 'fuck i wana go get wasted again' i was just chill.

There are a few reasons on my opinion.

Cheers

If you can't trust the government when it comes to regulating most drugs, why do you trust it to regulate the worst of drugs? The legality of those drugs would lower the price, there would be less chance of overdosing from a stronger drug, and addiction can be solved much easier if its legal and you can openly say "Im addicted to heroin."

[Mastertroy]

Ok so your saying by making it legal it would lower the price.
This in no way effects the quality of the drug, if anything the producers will use not enough laxative or other additive in the drug or too much or not of the right kind, to ship the drug out faster.
This would create an influx of cheap nasty drugs.
People would then, since its legal, by these drugs to see whats its like.
The general audiances perception is that if its legal its not bad for your body, that of course has limitations, but in general thats the average perception, and drugs that are illegal are generaly viewed as the 'bad' drugs of sociaty and as a precation the government has taken that step as to say its bad and put it in a classing system where crack heroin and shit are class A and marijuana is class c, etc.
By legalizing these drugs you are creating the perception that the drug is ok for the general audiance and as such they will try it.
With the cheap bad drugs now available because of its legality it is more harmfull and more people will get addicted.

Sure it would make it easier to say 'yes im addicted' but along with that there would be a huge influx of the ammount of people saying it.
Also its not currently illegal to say your addicted to drugs, but i do know where your coming from about it would be easier, because right now there is a social stigma attached to drug addicts, which is: they are bad parents/ brothers sister etc. They have no self controll and care only of themself etc etc etc etc.

I guess that point is valid.

Thanks for the nice debate btw

[[AC!DWIRE]]

I've never had Weed before, but I personally think it should be legalized. It has quite the benefits, like helping people relax, it's stress reducing, and it doesn't make you horny. (I dunno about anyone here, but I hate being horny. )

Do you wanna know why it's even illegal? Way back then in the 1920's a man was selling paper that happened to be made of cannabis leaves, this sold A LOT cheaper than regular papers material.
A rival who just so happened to be selling regular paper got pissed, went to the mayor and convinced him to illegalize that product, so he could go back to doing business well...


See, the reason why it's even illegal has nuthin' to do with the product itself. =/

[Tumbleweed]

Originally Posted by Mastertroy

Ok so your saying by making it legal it would lower the price.
This in no way effects the quality of the drug, if anything the producers will use not enough laxative or other additive in the drug or too much or not of the right kind, to ship the drug out faster.
This would create an influx of cheap nasty drugs.
People would then, since its legal, by these drugs to see whats its like.
The general audiances perception is that if its legal its not bad for your body, that of course has limitations, but in general thats the average perception, and drugs that are illegal are generaly viewed as the 'bad' drugs of sociaty and as a precation the government has taken that step as to say its bad and put it in a classing system where crack heroin and shit are class A and marijuana is class c, etc.
By legalizing these drugs you are creating the perception that the drug is ok for the general audiance and as such they will try it.
With the cheap bad drugs now available because of its legality it is more harmfull and more people will get addicted.

Sure it would make it easier to say 'yes im addicted' but along with that there would be a huge influx of the ammount of people saying it.
Also its not currently illegal to say your addicted to drugs, but i do know where your coming from about it would be easier, because right now there is a social stigma attached to drug addicts, which is: they are bad parents/ brothers sister etc. They have no self controll and care only of themself etc etc etc etc.

I guess that point is valid.

Thanks for the nice debate btw

The influx would certainly not exceed the number of alcoholics or tobacco smokers by any means. Plus, even if there is an influx, thats a GOOD thing. the last thing i want is drugs.

for example: empirical evidence in the netherlands. they legalized pot, and now less teens smoke pot than ever before

second you dont understand the free market. They wouldnt be making cheap drugs if they now have to worry about consumerism and not having the ability to shoot someone up/jip them to get money. The purer the drug, the more people will buy from you. Throw in current FDA regulations and we're in showbiz.

[Fake Death]

well it shouldn't matter the drug it matter how much you consume i'd say should be a limit.

I'd say yes just put a limit on what they can use of the drug like here in Denver an 1 OZ of weed if you 21 or older.. ;p

Even though sounds quite hard to maintain hence why the goverment or private and respectly companys give only certain limits on how hard the drug is of'coruse after you pay for it.

[MintCreme]

The reason why they won't legalize pot any time soon, is because you can grow it at home. They can't tax it so easily.

Sure, sure, you can grow tobacco at home-- but that's not all that's IN a cigarette. Nicotine is what smokers crave. (Among other things, I'm sure.)

[Fake Death]

Originally Posted by Alicia

The reason why they won't legalize pot any time soon, is because you can grow it at home. They can't tax it so easily.

Sure, sure, you can grow tobacco at home-- but that's not all that's IN a cigarette. Nicotine is what smokers crave. (Among other things, I'm sure.)

Not really they can do the same with meth, you can make in your house. ;p


Worth alot more then your average every day weed.


Tabacco pure and straight is far much better then smoking a cig in a sense of addiction but not health wise.



Gotta love cigars.