Should gays be allowed to marry?

[Zombies]

Gay Marriage is allowed in Canada. I don't see anything wrong with it. Why does it seem to bother everyone? It's not like we're getting married to you and fucking you up the ass. It's just so damn negative because people use it in a negative way now- "Oh that's so gay, you're such a fag, what a homo." ect ect.

And yes I say we because I'm Gay, and open about it. I have a fiance and I'm getting married in Canada. Just because some countries or people don't believe in it, that doesn't make it wrong.

Again, I really don't see how it bothers you. We're not forcing you to watch us screw. We're not forcing you to watch us kiss. We're not forcing ourself up your ass, so just turn away and stfu.

Edit: If you didn't understand any of that: Obviously I'm all for Gay marriage.

[Connor]

Originally Posted by Fortunato

Wow. What an excellent example. Let's choose the country with the least personal freedom, one that is the exact antithesis of where most people on these boards live (US) and make that our model to follow. Brilliant. :|

Tyler, please do me a favour and shutup.
Tell me where I said to follow their morals?
I never said to follow them.

[Bunneh]

Originally Posted by Connor

Tyler, please do me a favour and shutup.
Tell me where I said to follow their morals?
I never said to follow them.

I'm not Tyler. >.>

[The Killer Clown]

well, heres my thing, if gay marriage was right, then it wouldn't be something we would have to hugely consider, like traffic laws and things of that nature, this is something that isnt right, 2 males should be together in holy matrimony, it is forbidden.

not to say there is anything wrong with gays, but it isn't right.

[Zombies]

Originally Posted by The Killer Clown

well, heres my thing, if gay marriage was right, then it wouldn't be something we would have to hugely consider, like traffic laws and things of that nature, this is something that isnt right, 2 males should be together in holy matrimony, it is forbidden.

not to say there is anything wrong with gays, but it isn't right.

By saying it isn't right you're saying it's wrong. That makes no sense.

So, by taking that perspective, you're saying washing yourself is wrong? Native Americans are wrong? Because it took a long time for baths to be considered something proper, and fucking decades to accept Native Americans- or "black people" as they're often referred to.

Just because you, a religion or a country thinks its wrong, that doesn't make it wrong.

[Kaligor]

I dont think I will ever understand why people who say that gay marriage is wrong can never come up with better reasons than "religion" and "it has just always been this way so that makes it right that they cannot".

Its one thing to personally not agree with it, but its another completely to say that it is socially wrong. There is no valid reason why a society in this day and age should not permit gays to marry. None. Not one. Religion is not a valid reason. Religion is a set of biases imprinted on people from birth in order to better control them when they are of a voting age in my opinion. But, I dont think religion is "wrong" or should be disallowed just because of all the harm it does. What harm does gay marriage do in comparison with say...the crusades which ended up in countless thousands of deaths?

[Bunneh]

Originally Posted by The Killer Clown

well, heres my thing, if gay marriage was right, then it wouldn't be something we would have to hugely consider, like traffic laws and things of that nature, this is something that isnt right, 2 males should be together in holy matrimony, it is forbidden.

not to say there is anything wrong with gays, but it isn't right.

Well it took one of the most horrible wars (and one of the worst civil wars in the planet's history) to end slavery. So that was apparently something that people had to hugely consider.

Does that mean we should enslave all black people again? I mean, obviously if people had to hugely consider freeing slaves then it isn't right.

And, for that matter, I think women should probably lose all of their rights and go back to basically being property, since people had to consider that a lot.

Hell; I think that the Roman Empire should be recreated and we should follow their laws. I mean, the Germanic invaders who ended the empire obviously had to consider the implications of their decision. So obviously they were wrong.

In short, anything you have you consider is wrong.

If you aren't sure whether to sleep in or wake up early, kill yourself. To make it right.

Yeah, great logic.

[Babblez]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Killer Clown
well, heres my thing, if gay marriage was right, then it wouldn't be something we would have to hugely consider, like traffic laws and things of that nature, this is something that isnt right, 2 males should be together in holy matrimony, it is forbidden.

not to say there is anything wrong with gays, but it isn't right.

Well it took one of the most horrible wars (and one of the worst civil wars in the planet's history) to end slavery. So that was apparently something that people had to hugely consider.

Does that mean we should enslave all black people again? I mean, obviously if people had to hugely consider freeing slaves then it isn't right.

And, for that matter, I think women should probably lose all of their rights and go back to basically being property, since people had to consider that a lot.

Hell; I think that the Roman Empire should be recreated and we should follow their laws. I mean, the Germanic invaders who ended the empire obviously had to consider the implications of their decision. So obviously they were wrong.

In short, anything you have you consider is wrong.

If you aren't sure whether to sleep in or wake up early, kill yourself. To make it right.

Yeah, great logic.

Agreed completely. I read your first post on this topic and didn't see the second page initially, and all I had to say to you was form a logical opinion, then come back and try again. Then I saw the second page and that you'd posted again and thought that someone else might have told you just that and that you'd done so, but no. So my original thought stands. Go form a logical opinion then come back and try again.

Going off your original post alone "there'd be no need for a debate if it was right", you've completely discounted this WHOLE section, not to mention a highly regarded...sport I guess...of debating. You're basically saying that neither creationism nor evolution is right because there's a debate. You're saying that no religion is right, including atheism and agnostisism(spelling, sorry), because there is a debate on the subject. How can something be wrong just because there is a debate? Or because it needs to be "hugely considered". Everything that makes our society the way it is today has needed to be "hugely considered". Do you think that people rolled out of bed one morning, heard of any one of davinci's inventions and accepted it? How about the plane? Or the Automobile? Women's rights? Schooling for girls? The list goes on and on. And the answer is HELL FUCKING NO.

As previously stated, go back to whatever hole you crawled out of, form a logical opinion, then come back and try again.

[The Killer Clown]

Check this im native american, back then gay was frowned upon for something like that the slaves would be beheaded and comparing gay marriage to slavery, slavery was a huge thing for the fact that were humans, just like whites, so we should have the same rights, the only difference is skin.

But the same race marriage that isn't right, is a man marrying a child right? if gay marriage was allowed that would open doors for alot of others things also, a man should be with a women and a women with a man. its been that way since the beggining so why change it now?

[Babblez]

And gays aren't human? Homosexuals don't deserve rights because they (for the most part) were born with preferences that differ to yours? AGAIN. You make no sense. Your argument is poor and irrelevant. "Its been that way since the beginning, why change it now?"...wtf kind of argument is that? Women were treated like objects from the beginning, why should it be different now? Girls were having babies when they were 13 years old from the beginning, why should that have changed? Change is a necessary part of survival. Granted this change may not be an essential part in human evolution, but it sure as HELL isn't a harmful part. Its just the way some people feel. Who is ANYBODY to say whether it is right or wrong, whether they should or should not be afforded the same right as those who would rather screw the same sex and help the world with its overpopulation problem?

Grow up.