Suicide?

[Jub Jub]

Originally Posted by Noodle

But in quite a few religions suicide is illegal.

Apparently alot are, back in the good old days. (medieval) Suicide is illegal, in Christianity, and catholicism

[Lil Sp3nda]

im quite sure the only religion that supports suicide is like gothisum or somthing

[zazzer]

Originally Posted by Jub Jub

Apparently alot are, back in the good old days. (medieval) Suicide is illegal, in Christianity, and catholicism

This is true (I'm Catholic)... also I am an ex funeral director and in this role I had the job of caring for the families left to 'deal' with the aftermath of a suicide... the pain and shame they feel is very real and very deep and in some cases harder to deal with than the loss of their loved one..

Having said that the reasons that I heard and the letters that were left were usually 'trivial' in the bigger scheme of things but obviously HUGE in the mind of the victim and they were a vitim of life's circumstances however we all have the ability to make choices and should you ever feel that low that you are considering suicide you need to make a concsious 'choice' to seek help, if they could see the heartbreak they are leaving behind they wouldn't do it. When you have hit that low the only way to go is UP.

[second2none]

I have no respect for anyone who hurts them self. Suicide is cowards way out of sorting problems out. Nothing cant be worked out. There are other people in the world worse off. No use killing your self. You hurt other people in the process therefore I have no respect for anyone who hurts them self. Thats why I cant stand emo's

[zazzer]

Originally Posted by Dooper

Thats why I cant stand emo's

I am an older person and I had to ask my daughter what an emo was recently.... I was shocked to learn what they do

[Jax]

There shouldn't be any reason that cannot be solved that is worth killing yourself.

It ruins people's lives, makes people feel guilty, and is just throwing your life away.

Imagine how much effort you put into your own life, how much others put into yours, and then you just throw it all away?

Its quite sad really, I don't think anyone should have to feel like they don't deserve to live, or they don't have a reason to live.

Everyone has a reason to live, they just might not see it, they need to step out of the darkness and find it.

As for not deserving, everyone deserves to live, unless of course you have taken the lives of innocent people, then, if you suicide, congratz.

Any other forms of self inflicted pain, such as the sterotyped emo, is crazy.

Personally, if I am really pissed at the world, for that brief moment, I don't care what happens, my body numbs and I can't feel pain, no matter how painful, it doesn't hurt.
I'm not saying I run and grab a knife and slit myself, I am not that fucking stupid.

[k[ore]]

I've thought about suicide before and on occasion I still do but I know that would only make things worse for my family...and my 1 friend who barely knows i still exist...lol

Not to mention that it will solve nothing, just a permanent escape.

It's retarded though whenever I read someone seriously thinks about it I always figure they're a weak pussy for even thinking about it yet I do the same...talk about hypocrisy lol

Others who consider it faced a a hardship in life or were traumatized...while others got dumped in a 2 month relationship or dropped their ice cream or something -_-

[UnAnGeLic]

there's definitely others in the world who are facing something worse than you.. when you saw those, you'll never think again that you doesn't want a life.

additional to that, i believe every trauma we encounter is a something we need to endure in life(if you believe in life after life).

in actual fact, different kind of people will have different ways of convincing self that suicide is not the way. there's alot of reasoning listed above already..

prolly those who are online now and looking at this thread.. your life can never be too miserable.. the question is, are you strong enough to live..

[Li-Shun]

Ignorance is an amazing thing. I've experienced firsthand a young family member committing suicide. I just love these topics where people like to call them weak, cowardly, or that the christian god (even if some people are not christian) will send them hellbound. My family member had been a long time sufferer of paranoid schizophrenia. And people like to make fun of schizos, or think it's all ok with medication, but I don't believe anyone can come close to imagining the pure suffering these individuals endure from the moment they open their eyes, until the moment their brains allow them to finally sleep. So that illness is a gift from God? Because all life is a gift? I don't think so (and for one, I'm buddhist not christian). People assume that every individual has the ability to reason what they are doing. What if you have an illness that takes away your ability to distinguish reality from horrific images and audio hallucinations? What if it strips you of all objectivity? WHat if it makes you believe you are invincible? And no amount of Lithium, Thorazine or any other drug they would have you doped up on for the rest of your life can take it away? So in one second..one thought, you you just can't take it anymore. You want it to stop. Because your life is pure suffering and the hope of recovery just doesn't register. Every fibre of your being, every thought, and even voices tell you that you are nothing but a burden to everyone around you.
Well I will not believe for one bloody second that my family member is in a Christian hell (because I try to think in an enlightened respect). I don't think he is a "pussy" or a "coward" because I'm not so egotistical to believe that I can know exactly what it's like to be in everyone's shoes all over the planet and judge them at the same time. Nobody has the right to judge another individual until you know firsthand the agony they have endured.
Of course it devastated me and my family. And I still think about it all the time. But I was never angry at them for it. I'm angry at the illness. I'm angry at the lack of medical technology to treat it. I'm angry at the social stigma against such things that make research for solutions incredibly difficult.
So if my family member is such a coward after fighting this illness for 4 years of no relief, I really am curious as to how others think they could do it better. Of course, you would never actually know if you could do shit. Just be one with the masses that sit back and smugly assume everyone who commits suicide is weak no matter what the horrific circumstances are that your mind can't concieve of.

[Tom]

Depends for the reson they killed themselves