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Old 02-08-2008, 12:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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We went to Iraq for oil, not 'terrorism,' because by 2100 there won't be any left. We started the oil wars, and as the resource wanes and our need for it grows, more countries will get involved. If there will be a WWIII, it will be over oil.

The best part is that not only will the entire world be fighting over a resource that will be gone by the next century, we'll be using all our money to fight these fights, rather than discover a new energy source. So mid-war oil is just going to completely disappear, we'll have no recourse, and everything will just stop. Life as you know it will come to an end. Electricity and all it's beauties will be dead. Cars? Gone. We'll be tossed back into the dark ages, literally. The government CANNOT run on such a large scale without electricity. The wars aren't just going to stop when there isn't anyone giving commands because there's no way for them to give them. Little sections of armies will fight on, a lost cause but they'll use up all the ammo they've got left and continue to fight even after firepower is all dried up and they're just using stones and knives. All over the world, there will be small sections of the remainders of countries that no longer exist due to lack of government, their previous citizens in this new anarchy will continue to fight their neighbors who are the children of the opposing armies of the third world war.

The best part is that not only will this happen, we've got global warming on the way. Ocean levels rising, all that ----. We're not even going to be able to detect it. Seriously, we'll never see it coming due to total lack of techology. One day the coasts will just be drowned. Millions, maybe billions of people will die.

Without hospitals, and with all these fresh corpses, disease will run rampant. STDs, viruses, the common cold. It'll be like the fucking black plague x500. We will have no hope.

Sure, an exciting new age will come about, if we're able to live through it, and that doesn't seem likely. The problems I've mentioned aren't even all of them. There's a lot more to deal with. This is just the beginning.
I actually wrote this for a song that I'm working on. It was for my history class, and how my teacher is a Bush loving reject. I decided to slam her with a kick-ass oral report. Fucking rednecks.
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In terms of critique, I think there are two separate sides to be addressed here. Namely, the writing aspect versus the accuracy aspect.

Writing wise, you have a fairly solid rough draft of an oral argument. I would definitely not consider this an essay, but as an oral argument, it's fairly solid. However, you could easily improve it by formalizing the language somewhat, distancing the tone to a more neutral-sounding standpoint, and citing sources for your information.

And I love political songs; if you ever write a song on the subject or whatnot, it would be way cool if you could post lyrics or a recording. :3

Now as far as accuracy, I disagree with you on a few key points.
First up, I'll break your argument into bullets. Basically, this is what I see as your key points:
  • The U.S. went into Iraq for oil.
  • Within the next century, global oil stocks will be depleted.
  • Not enough consideration is being given to alternative energy sources.
  • You speculate on a World War III, though I think that has all of the likelihood of a Tom Clancy novel (in fact, I'm fairly sure there was a Tom Clancy novel on a world oil war).

I gotta say, I disagree with you. I'm not defending President Bush, either. I don't support the War in Iraq, but for entirely different reasons.

First point of contention: the War in Iraq was started for oil.

Frankly, this argument has been around for a long time and just isn't very bright. When you think about it, the U.S. was on fairly good terms with Iraq pre-war. After all, we put Saddam in power. Many of the weapons used by his forces were U.S. military surplus. While there had been antagonism, in general, Saddam wasn't ready to cut off the oil trade. That said, he was willing to control it. I.E. one of the publicly stated reasons that we went in was to stabilize the oil trade and prevent one nation from abusing its control over the market sector to wreak havoc on the global economy. THAT said, the U.S. invasion of Iraq actually DISRUPTED the oil trade significantly. And now, oil prices are skyrocketing.

So invasion in Iraq = / = cheap oil.

Second point: oil will be gone by the end of the century.

Oil will never be completely "gone." Fossil fuels come from fossilized bio matter. While there is still bio matter, there will still be oil. The main concern about oil depletion is not the end of oil, but the end of CHEAP oil. In other words, this is not an environmental thing. This is not, "We're killing the planet! OH NOES!" It is quite frankly a, "We're making gas more expensive! Shit!" Oil depletion arguments are all about cost/benefit; there will always be more oil somewhere - we just have to wait for it to become cheap again. That may take decades or centuries. As far as your estimate, I would love to see some sources cited on that. Reputable sources, mind you.

Third: not enough consideration is being given to alternative energy sources.

All I gotta say is supply and demand. The global marketplace adjusts; when oil becomes too expensive to act as a sustainable energy source, more demand will be placed on finding alternative sources, and thus the supply of those sources will increase. In other words, when enough people get tired of paying $20 a gallon at the pump, they'll throw their money towards alternative energy sources.

Now I completely disagree that not enough credence is being given to alternative fuel sources. We've come leaps and bounds. Hybrid cars are a first step. There already are some entirely electric cars; once again, demand becomes a problem with spreading their usage.

As far as the environmental factor, most people love to point at nuclear power and biopower as examples of ideal, "clean" energy. Sorry, but these are pop culture myths. First, nuclear power. Frankly, I find this the dumbest possible argument. People who support widescale use of nuclear power, but condemn the use of fossil fuels because we're "depleting" them are simply dumb.

Most fossil fuels are chemically stable in the natural environment. Nuclear fuels are not. In other words, the supply of nuclear fuels is diminishing on its own. That's just basic chemistry. Beyond that, there are less stores of nuclear fuels than there are of oil. Nuclear fuels are more of a depleteable resource than oil!

As far as biofuel, I would refer you to this extremely well-written article:
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Next thing I disagree with you on: "Electricity and all it's beauties will be dead."

Flat out not true. Electricity = / = oil. I can make electricity with a lemon and two prongs of copper. Be more precise with your wording.

Next thing: "The government CANNOT run on such a large scale without electricity."

Government in the United States ran on a large scale for close to 200 years WITHOUT electricity. As far as "government" in general, I highly doubt the Romans had light bulbs, and they were about as large scale as you get. Humanity has survived MILLENNIUMS without electricity.

And everything you said on the fictional third world war is utter speculation, and not even likely or researched.

Then you go into global warming.

"One day the coasts will just be drowned. Millions, maybe billions of people will die."

That made me burst out laughing. Turn off The Day After Tomorrow and read an article on climate change. It's not sudden death from the seas, it's a slow and measured change.

Overall, you have a well-written argument, but it's not researched. It's not particularly "good." Only well-written.
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Oh man, I totally forgot about this thread. LOL@ME.


Alright, I don't think you understand my point. Sure, older civilizations have sustained themselves without electricity, but modern America to regress back to those times would be devastating. Life as we know it would cease to be, because it really would. I wasn't talking about an Armageddon, just simple cause and effect. If we lose the main source of our power -- which would be electricity for us -- (just how it's like...tacos for Mexicans and the racial intimidation bonus for blacks), we will cease to be...but he didn't mean we would never rise back up.

Also, there's no need to bullshit writing to make it more formal lol. Fuck conformity. If you can get your message across and the audience can understand it how you want them to, then who cares whether you put it in the right format or not? Get the evidence and interpret, reading off statistics for hours on end wouldn't get your point across and leave many people in the grey about it.

Lastly, we're not putting enough effort into alternative sources, because we're just going with the generic electric (WHICH NEEDS OIL TOO LOL), solar, and biofuel shit. There's tons more ways we could generate energy for our use if we actually tried to, like the particles a friend of mine worked with over a summer at Florida Institute of Technology, but no one wants to think outside the box, lol.

I understand what you're saying too, and I wasn't trying to be rash in my explanation, but you kinda smashed my belief.
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