Inheritance Series: Brisingr - Page 3

NeoHaxxxerz · 10-30-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pandox

I'd simply like to see where dragons, shades, and elves sound like -anything- George Lucas would put out.

...unless there's another George Lucas out there that I'm looking overlooking.

Yus...Sir George Lucas of the medieval fantasy era. >.>

And...if I weren't so busy with the Necroscope series, I'd give it a look. But this series I'm on now is just fascinating.

Fewmitz · 10-30-2008, 08:46 AM

The argument is valid.

Also completely worthless, but at least it makes remnants of sense.

Ezyeb · 10-31-2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pandox

I'd simply like to see where dragons, shades, and elves sound like -anything- George Lucas would put out.

...unless there's another George Lucas out there that I'm looking overlooking.

It was George Lucas's plot, but there were also elements of Tolkien, Rowling, and several other lesser known fantasy writers.

You can do your own comparisons:

Eragon - Plagiarism Made Popular Matchstick

Pixie Dust: Paolini and Plagiarism

ERAGON

And that's just the first three links Google gives at "eragon plagiarized".

Pandox · 10-31-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezyeb

It was George Lucas's plot, but there were also elements of Tolkien, Rowling, and several other lesser known fantasy writers.

You can do your own comparisons:

Eragon - Plagiarism Made Popular Matchstick

Pixie Dust: Paolini and Plagiarism

ERAGON

And that's just the first three links Google gives at "eragon plagiarized".

The first two are critical opinions.
Anyone can accuse anybody of plagiarism.

...and the third one is based on the movie.

If you had read the book and watched the movie,
you would have realized that the movie does not follow the book at all.
Even I hated the movie.
>.>

Ezyeb · 10-31-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pandox

The first two are critical opinions.
Anyone can accuse anybody of plagiarism.

...and the third one is based on the movie.

If you had read the book and watched the movie,
you would have realized that the movie does not follow the book at all.
Even I hated the movie.
>.>

It's not opinion that half of the names in Eragon are IDENTICAL to those in LotR. It's not opinion that half of the plot in Eragon is IDENTICAL to Starwars. It's not opinion--it's observation. It would be incredibly hard to deny that Paolini didn't "borrow" these ideas, given he has ADMITTED to being a fan of George Lucas, McAffrey, Rowling, Tolkien, among other authors he has taken key elements from. I would say, "Oh, sure, that's just what I think," if he didn't right out admit it. :/ It is too hard to defend these books, they weren't going to be published until his parents got into the business JUST for that reason, and the only reason he got popular because he was a cute little boy who thought he could write in your typical purple prose style for a budding teenager.

Regardless of the last link representing the movie, it still reviews the storyline. Which, I would hope, is remotely the same as the book, less we see it more similar to Star Wars than it was in written word.

Anyway, just for lols:

Rocket Number 09: 'Eragon' is an epic ... RIP-OFF

A Wandering Eyre Star Wars by George Lucas v. The Inheritance Trilogy by Christopher Paolini

Amazon.com: Aleydis' review of Eldest (Inheritance, Book 2)

Comparisons between the plot of Eragon and Star Wars@Everything2.com

Obviously more than a few people find the similarities disturbing.

Pandox · 10-31-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezyeb

It's not opinion that half of the names in Eragon are IDENTICAL to those in LotR. It's not opinion that half of the plot in Eragon is IDENTICAL to Starwars. It's not opinion--it's observation. It would be incredibly hard to deny that Paolini didn't "borrow" these ideas, given he has ADMITTED to being a fan of George Lucas, McAffrey, Rowling, Tolkien, among other authors he has taken key elements from. I would say, "Oh, sure, that's just what I think," if he didn't right out admit it. :/ It is too hard to defend these books, they weren't going to be published until his parents got into the business JUST for that reason, and the only reason he got popular because he was a cute little boy who thought he could write in your typical purple prose style for a budding teenager.

Regardless of the last link representing the movie, it still reviews the storyline. Which, I would hope, is remotely the same as the book, less we see it more similar to Star Wars than it was in written word.

Anyway, just for lols:

Rocket Number 09: 'Eragon' is an epic ... RIP-OFF

A Wandering Eyre Star Wars by George Lucas v. The Inheritance Trilogy by Christopher Paolini

Amazon.com: Aleydis' review of Eldest (Inheritance, Book 2)

Comparisons between the plot of Eragon and Star Wars@Everything2.com

Obviously more than a few people find the similarities disturbing.

The idea behind the movie may have been the same,
The movie is based of the Eragon book... that is as far as it goes in likeness... Paolini wasn't there to go "Do this like this movie here"... and you act like authors borrowing ideas from other writers is a new thing? I'm fairly positive that he isn't the first to commit such an act, if thats how you want to see it. If you go to the childrens section of Barnes and Noble (Where you'll find this series,) I can point out about a hundred books that are ALL similar in plot/story/characters.
Who cares if the plot is the same? It's how he takes that plot and turns it into a unique story about Eragon and Sapphira.

Before you criticise, you need to pick the book up yourself.
To damn the book without having read it first hand is a rather onesided way of going about things.
Which...
Only attests to your ignorance.
So please,
if you would...
Read the book and then come back with a valid argument.

Ezyeb · 10-31-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pandox

The idea behind the movie may have been the same,
The movie is based of the Eragon book... that is as far as it goes in likeness... Paolini wasn't there to go "Do this like this movie here"... and you act like authors borrowing ideas from other writers is a new thing? I'm fairly positive that he isn't the first to commit such an act, if thats how you want to see it. If you go to the childrens section of Barnes and Noble (Where you'll find this series,) I can point out about a hundred books that are ALL similar in plot/story/characters.
Who cares if the plot is the same? It's how he takes that plot and turns it into a unique story about Eragon and Sapphira.

Before you criticise, you need to pick the book up yourself.
To damn the book without having read it first hand is a rather onesided way of going about things.
Which...
Only attests to your ignorance.
So please,
if you would...
Read the book and then come back with a valid argument.

So you're endorsing theft?

And my argument is valid. I present to you my source for belief, so if my argument is not valid, then neither is that of the people who have so kindly exploited the book for what it truly is.

Fewmitz · 10-31-2008, 03:44 PM

People need to grow up.

Consider:

This argument is worthless.

Pandox · 10-31-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezyeb

So you're endorsing theft?

And my argument is valid. I present to you my source for belief, so if my argument is not valid, then neither is that of the people who have so kindly exploited the book for what it truly is.

...read the book,
then argue about it it.

**Bunneh** · 11-01-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pandox

...read the book,
then argue about it it.

Having read the books, I'd like to chip in and agree with him on this; Paolini's books are some of the most blatant plagiarism I've ever seen, especially given the fact that they're published, popular books.