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Originally Posted by j0intster  funny thing is....according to doctors i am schizophrenic
and well... as far as ive been able to tell... marijuana keeps that along with my
ADHD, depression, and being bipolar
and if it wasnt for the marijuana i would eather be dead, living on the streets, or in a mental institution
so you cant tell me... someone that smokes marijuana and has all thos problems
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I will respond to this post with a polite and hopefully meaningful lack of comment. You may want to read that back to yourself later when you are not stoned and try to think how it would sound to anyone else hearing a pot-smoker list a truly impressive list of mental illnesses that he has, all of which are known to be caused by smoking pot... and then claiming that pot helped him through these diseases which he would not even have if he didn't smoke pot in the first place. Hmm.
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Originally Posted by Kinky You can't believe EVERYTHING and all of the statistics. They aren't always true. |
This is not some poorly written biased article in The Sun or propaganda spewed by some communist dictatorship. This is a research publication of an experiment that was conducted over a period of many years and followed up in 2005. It was published in the highly respected British Journal of Psychology.
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Wtf? What about the drunk drivers that kill people. You are a drinker, no? I don't care if you are saying I STOP WHEN I FEEL THE AFFECTS. You still drink. You are still putting a narcotic in your body. You are contradicting yourself.
I have never smoked weed, though - or anything for that matter. But a lot of people do it around me.
Maybe people OCCASIONALLY take a hit. Either way they are still putting a narcotic in their body, right? Because alcohol is a narcotic. The definition you just posted proved that.
You said that you don't need to put something unnatural in your body- and you drink. I don't care if its occasional or not- you still do it. So if pot smokers are drug addicts - then you are a drunk.
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You have been using the same invalid argument in every single one of your posts and grasping at straws with blunt attacks and accusations based on exaggerated and irrelevant 'facts' taken out-of-context from my posts.
I am going to repeat myself just once more, and after that I will simply assume that you are in fact a brick wall and find someone who is capable of actual conversation and does not simply disregard and attack everything I say.
I do drink occasionally and I stop if I start feeling the effects. I do not drink for the purpose of numbing my senses, feeling intoxicated, or enhancing my enjoyment in social events and as a matter of fact HATE all of these side effects. The last time I actually got drunk was four years ago. I found the experience truly horrible and wish to never feel it ever again. If you think that's what a 'drunk' or an 'alcoholic' is, I must say I truly envy the sheltered life you must have lived.
I do not tolerate drunk drivers any more than 'drug drivers', which are treated in the same way as drunk drivers are and given the same penalties (not including all the stuff they get for actually using drugs), at least here in the UK.
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Originally Posted by frapp Just because you smoke weed doesn't mean you'll become psychotic lol. Sure if you have pre-existing psychological problems then it probably wouldn't be the best idea, but it doesn't necessarily mean you'll endure "a lifetime of psychosis" or even be affected by it (lol hello "occassional" smokers they do it for the taste and stop when they feel the affects).
Good news is that anti-pot people will not change my love for pot, though I haven't smoked in about 2 years (my personal case of it NOT being addictive proven). I normally ignore peoples claims of it being "addictive" and "omg itz so harmfulz", it's my choice, I know what I'm getting myself into.
Very little in this world is 100% healthy. Someone will always find something unhealthy about every single thing in the world. You "occassionally" drink "because you like the taste" isn't healthy. AT ALL. Not even if it's just 1 beer. If alcohol was illegal you would be singing a different tune. |
First of all, allow me to say this:
Thank you.
I don't agree with your views, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate them or respect them. You are very well-spoken and you are the only one so far who has actually provided a
valid argument, Without simply ignoring facts or the arguments I have presented and simply attacking me with out-of-context straw theories.
So I appreciate this. Thank you. (And no, I am not being sarcastic.)
Second of all, I would like to say that if alcohol became illegal, I would not drink. I would turn to non-alcoholic versions of my favourite drinks like root beer, virgin cocktails, flavoured non-alcoholic cider, etc. I would be somewhat disappointed that I can no longer have the much nicer 'real deal', but on the other hand it would make me feel safer when walking alone at night, or having dinner at a pub. I drink responsibly, but not everyone does, and so I think that overall the world would be a better place without alcohol. I also care too much about my future to jeopardise it with a criminal record.
True, very little in the world is 100% healthy or risk-free, but some things are less healthy and more risky than others. Alcohol does kill more people each year, but then again the amount of drink each year is immensely larger than the amount of people who smoke pot each year. Statistics are relative; bear in mind that after six years of weed smoking, 85% of subjects required treatment for some for of mental illness, 45% of which where schizophrenic. 38% were schizophrenic within just three years.
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Explain how weed is not socially healthy, I'm still trying to understand that bit too.
I would smoke it if I could, but I value having a job and paying for my mortgage over the chance of failing a drug test.
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You answered the question yourself in your second post. That was actually what I was referring to.
Other than that, more people get turned off by pot-smokers than turned on. I do have close friends who smoke pot (it breaks my heart that they do so but there's nothing I can do and I love the even so), but I would never ever date a druggie, alcoholic, or smoker. I have had horrible experiences with substance-abusing partners and, well... never again.
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I do believe what Chaos said hold SOME truth to it, that it's probably not the healthiest choice when having all sorts of mental problems, but not to the degree he's making it out to be.
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If anyone in this thread can hand-on-their-heart claim in all 100% honesty that they have never suffered from any remote kind of mental illness and have no family history of it (this includes depression, eating disorders, panic attacks, as well as more serious ones like Alzheimer's, paranoia and schizophrenia), let them speak up.
That chirping sound you're hearing now would be the crickets.
Also, off topic: but I'm a she. ;P
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